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Saturday, August 19, 2006

TOTAL DISCONNECT OF THE AMERICAN MIND FROM REALITY IN IRAN

Shown in blue below is the comment of a worthy but frustrated American on a website with 250,000 members, indicating how far off the American ability to think in terms of reality is when referencing Iran as the venue.

This applies equally to much of the Administration, the Intelligence Agencies, much of the Military (specially retired talking heads advisors and TV pundits) and sadly so, the State Department.

Alan's response follows the blue comment:

COMMENT:

"I feel for the people. But the reality is they are sitting on a powder keg with the lunatics running the asylum.I don't. An unstated corrallery of the Bush Doctrine is "citizens: you are responsible for your own country" This is an assertion of radical democracy. No more victim nations.

If a nation of millions allows a handful to rule, for decades, without any significant opposition they have de-facto made the decision to support those tyrants. Please don't come crying to us (though they will) when we are forced to bomb you because of the action of those rulers.

I will respect the Iranians when they rise up, violently, to depose the lunatics. Anything less is cowardice and unworthy of a supposedly great people.

At least some Nazi's tried to assassinate Hitler. Many others resisted. All I see from the Iranians are protests, which sometimes go violent. This is silly.

The time is long past to be organizing military resistance, buying guns, forming cells, and carrying out targeted assassinations of Mullahs.

This is what would certainly have happened in the USA decades ago were some sick sect of crazed religious fanatics attempt to impose dictatorship on the American people.

So no, I won't feel sorry for those who die. They have literally brought this upon themselves".

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Easy to stand in your shoes or sit in the safety of your chair and accuse a populace of cowardice because they no longer want to face an Arab mercenary force - the Basiji - newly equipped with $253 MILLION of weaponry and crowd control and riot suppression equipment AND open season to kill anyone they want to in the streets - without fear of punishment.

Their sole job - presently, is to repress any street location or university demonstrations and use whatever means they want. A new task envisaged for them will be the running of elections and screening of candidates. If it was bad and discriminatory before, the "fix" is in for the ardent followers of Hojatieh to win everything.

They have been given arrest authority BUT they take those arrested to their own sites and do with them as they please. And their pleasure is inevitably sadistic to the extreme.

No law, no oversight, no restrictions and nowhere for anyone to go and complain.

Within those parameters, would you DARE go into the streets of your own neighborhod to even shop for groceries let alone oppose anything or anyone? Say if the local gangs had the same mission in mind and the same immunity from punishment or retribution?

Be real, good friend.

Specially when the social weave of Iranian society - after over a quarter of a century of the Mullahs - has been weakened by corruption essential for survival.

Where married women take on several lovers to pay their daily life's needs and to feed their husbands and children.

Where prostitution is almost an unavoidable part of life for women. In best case scenarios as a beaten and degraded wife of some man - often with multiple wives. Who at any moment can find herself thrown into the street to join the countless homeless women on the streets of cities, who failed to please their husbands enough and thus become indigents with no way to earn a living

Where drugs are sold more easily than music CDs.

Where more than 400,000 starving children roam the streets of Tehran and will do anything to survive. Peddling themselves or others - snitching on others to the authorities for a meager reward - to survive another day.

Compared to Iran's current social turmoil and dislocation, the Jews almost "had it good" under Hitler - not much of an exaggeration since the Bassiji kill just as readily or more so than the Nazi SS. The streets and private homes are the concentration camps, not just the multitude of formal prisons.

They have been killed and maimed with tire irons by Bassijis for appearing close to a small crowd in the streets, even if not participants. What energy is left in these battered, sucked dry souls to do what you ask? To avoid your accusation of cowardice.

Put your thoughts into Islamic Iranian context not some philosophical, impossible parameters of what should have, could have, might have been done in an American scenario.

8 comments:

  1. The present dreadful sorrowful noisome "geryeh-aavar" state of affairs in Iran is the DIRECT consequence of the actions of Muslim Iranians. They and they alone are responsible for bringing this clamity upon us. I for one am grateful to God that I'm not a Muslim I've never been a Muslim and that I'll never be a Muslim; in fact I'd sooner take rat poison than be a f%&king Muslim.
    Alan, as much as it pains me to say this, there is a grain of truth in what the chap whom you've quoted had said. Muslim Iranians raised this demon called the Islamic Republic, and the burden of bringing it down lies with Muslim Iranians only. The young men and women of your country shouldn't have to be sent into harms way because some f&%king "Haj-agha" decided to back Khomeini in 1979. And yet, for the sake of its own national security alone (not to mention preservation of western democracies) your country may have to do just that vis-a-vis the Mullah Regime.

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  2. Being subjugated to a dictator with armed troops is no excuse for people not to rebel.

    The trouble is the muslims seem not to know how to rebel, how to fight or for that matter know that they can fight.

    Until they gain that knowledge, organise themselves, arm themselves and kill those repressing them, no one can help them.

    America is out of the Nation Building Business, we just are not good at it and don't like the cost.

    Until the Iranians care more for their children and their grandchildren than they do for their own lives, they will continue to live (if you call it that) in subjugation and fear.

    Papa Ray
    West Texas
    USA

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  3. Lacking the Second Amendment the average Iranian is a target... not a player.

    Group action is impossible in truly totalitarian societies.

    North Korea as death camp proves my point.

    The mellowing of the USSR and PRC started at the top. Street action never worked.

    Hitler's grasp only evaporated upon the arrival of Patton and Third Army. ( Internal Nazi control collapsed in SW Germany first. )

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  4. Blert,
    God bless the souls of Gen. Patton and Gen. Douglas MacArthur and President Gen. Eisenhower.....

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  5. Garduneh Mehr I got something here that you can begardouni. Before you go on and accuse only the Muslims for supporting the so called revolution of 1979, do some research and find out who were all the players in that revolution. Not only stupid Muslims were active participants, the Jews, Christians, Marxists, Communists, and your beloved American government of Jimmy Carter, were supporters, organizers and participants of the revolution that put our (not your) beloved Iran in the hands of a bunch of Arab-parast Mullahs. Islam is no different than the other religions. They're all the root of all evil that continually destroy lives and countries of the world. I hate all religions, specially Islam. And as far as your beloved American generals, reedam be roohe Patton, MacArthur, and especially Eisenhower, who authorized the 1953 coup of the democratically elected government of Dr. Mosaddegh.

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  6. hrsa2,
    You lie and rant just like a filthy Muslim. I was there in Iran during the so-called Islamic revolution and there wasn't a single Christian or Jew or other minority that took part in that obscenity. I myself am from a religious minority and I know full well that we never betrayed "Khoda Shah o Mihan" God, King and Country. And we are to this day the best Iranians not you filthy hypocrite Arab-worshipping Muslims. Save your lies for some naive Westerner.
    And yes I do remember you fucking Mojahdeen and Mossadiqi's were also participants. Go f&$k yourself you filthy subhuman Muslim.

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  7. hrsa2,
    Do some research you say?!
    I was there you f&%king arsehole. I am the f&$king eye witness and I know full well the depth of the hypocrisy and the barbarity and the falsehoods of you filthy misanthropic subhuman Muslims. Not once did I see a Jewish or Christian Iranian yell "Allah'u'Akbar Khomeini rahbar". It was you f&%king Muslims who barked "AllahuAkbar Khomeini rahbar".
    And as regards my choice of pseuodnym:
    If instead of killing the innocent civilized Jews, Herr Hitler had set out to exterminate Muslims the world would have been a much better place and Hitler himself would've been remembered with honour. This is partly the reason I've chosen the pseudonym "Garduneh-ye Mehr" for myself. This being the Persian name for the Swastika. To put it in Hitlers language "Islam soll so schnell wie moeglich vernichtet werden."

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  8. you say its a police state with hundreds of thousands homeless and forced into prostitution.

    Hard to believe 1-2 people with knives can't kill one islamo-nazi once or twice a week and come up with his weapon - multiply that by dozens, accumulate weapons and go forward.

    sad to say, Papa Ray had it right:

    "Until the Iranians care more for their children and their grandchildren than they do for their own lives, they will continue to live (if you call it that) in subjugation and fear."

    If you want a free country, you have to fight for it,kill for it, and sad to say, many have to die for it.

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